Norganna,
It distresses me to read how you feel about Db and yourself, neither are justified, although understandable given your hopes for it and the lack of response. As you have provided myself and others with the benefit and pleasure of using Auctioneer over years, you never need to feel any shame about any project you attempt.

Db has its own problems and may not be working atm. Despite that I use it and upload often anyway. I scan more often to ensure that I will upload the best data possible. Foolish?: No. Any of your effort deserves the best I can do to support something you believe is worthwhile.

I want it to work for me and you, in ignorance I had no idea of the personal commitment you invest. The day I stumbled over Db I stopped using Wowecon, because I owe that to both of us.

Why? As a senior who loves Wow and has used Auctioneer and all your other addons for years, it has allowed me to play solo and still accumulate funds to buy reasonable gear. I delight in auctioning at 95% when the greedy and mean are at 260%, so that someone who is struggling may get benefit from our efforts. I am aware that your associates must also commit lots of time to support the maintenance, development and updating of these addons, and they can take a big bow.

No one ever knows what effort and foolish endeavors will achieve, so up on your hind legs and make that upload problem go away. At least then you will have usable data and supporters have no excuse not to use it. Alternatively bin all of it, not just Db so that I'll spend more time levelling and not having toons winging about lack of excitement.

This isn't a joke, I expose my feelings once a decade. Get on with what I couldn't do in 10 lifetimes, you will gain something of use for the rest of your life, certainly honour and respect. I wasted many years avoiding potential failure, and can never regain them.

Bless you Norganna , now I've discovered crying

My highest respect and best wishes
Michael N

I was not aware of the expences involved in AucDB.

I too deleted WOWEcon when I learned of AucDB, but after a week of not being able to get the it to work for me, I was forced to reinstall the othe Econ. I had assumed that when AucDB was ready for prime time, the word would go out, it would get uploaded to Curse and it would work.

To be brutaly honest, I only notice the addon's existance by chance and if it had been any other author then you, I wouldn't have taken the time to track down the scant amount of information describing the tool. It took me longer then it should have to actually find the download. I have no idea if I was even using it right. I found no useful documentation (either with the tool or in the wiki) and the only feedbackI get from the tool (that anything is actually happening) was when I would get errors (it's alltogeather possible that the tool is functional and the errors were directly related to my not having any detailed direction on how to setup and work the tool. ).

I love (and use) all your addons, they are superior to any of the others out there and also because they all "just work" right out of the box...AucDB,currently, isn't and doesn't.

It this point, I believe the choice come down to:

a) If you intend to keep AucDB with it's current level of PR, usability, documentation and unfunctionality...scrap it, don't continue to waste resources, because no one will use it.
or
b) If you feel you have the time and motivation to 1) Actually tell people about the tool, 2) make the tool intuative to use (or at least provide detailed setup and usage directions) and 3) have the tool actually work (or if it does work and I was just using it wrong, see #2)...then yes, I think this could be a Great tool that allot of people would use (and probably pay to use...Wowecon does it and they suck).

Now I know most of my post has been pretty negitive and I'm sorry. I am not trying flame or put you or your work down. I was just trying to explain (as I see it) the realities of the situation.


From your post, you seem to have two main problems 1) no one is using the tool and 2) it's costing a butt load of money. I will try to provide some suggestions (take it or leave it) on how I think you could address these problems.

Marketing:
People need to know the tool actually exists. A post on your main page (that will be pushed down at the next Auctioneer update) is not going to cut it. Update your Curse pages for all your addons with information about this new tool. Maybe talk to other addon writers and ask if they will post a small blurb about your tool and you could do the same for them.
Next, you are very smart in development and economics (and probably other things I don't know about) but some (possibly most) of your users are not. When you explain the tool, you need to explain, in fairly simple terms. This will basically set the hook (you can get into the OMGWTF 1337 Macro Economics speak, later, to reel them in). How will the tool benefit them, make their life easier or help them make more gold, faster.
The Key is: Make a Need in the reader's mind and then show how your programs can Satisfy that Need better then anything else out there. If you make that Need compeling enough, they will even pay to have that Need satified.

Documentation:
More Documentation! Specific Steps on how to setup and use the tool ( that actually match up with the current build of the tool)

Optional/lower priority: I have read thru most of the information available for most of your addons. They are sometimes not up-to-date with the current feature set of the addon they are describing ( which is common, you don't have time updateing all the FAQs, Wiki pages and curse addon pages after every release) and even if they are up-to-date they (specificly the Auctioneer docs and tool tips) tend to assume the reader is proficent in Economics and it's vocabulary. That is fine, allot of the people that come here do seem to know that stuff, but to reach the less knowelgable, you need to start out explaining things in mildly simpler terms (example: you know what a "mean value" is without even thinking. you would hope that others know as well, but you may need to give a simple explination or use more "laymens terms). I marked this as optional/low priority because all your addon (except AucDB) are pretty easy to use and usually work (for non-advanced users) right out of the box.

Usability:
As I mentioned, most of your addons are fairly easy to use (at least in using the addon's basic functionality). In my humble opinion, AucDB is not. I highly recommend designing the tool to be more user friendly. make each pregressive step or function obvious to the users. (Example: After every user action, it's good to have confirmation (a sound or visual indication that something has occured and the tool has acknowledged it)
The best way, I have found, to test usability (without actually standing over a bunch of new users recourding how they fumble thru your program) is to imagine I am my father or mother (or some other no computer literate relitive) and try to figure out how they would go about using the tool. If you come to something that you think they wouldn't understand or know what to do next, you know you need to improve the Usability of that part of the tool.

Money
Call out for help from the community. You have (arguably) some of the most populare addons available. Overtly asking (once in a while) for money is not a bad thing...do it too much and it will turn people off. But in emergencies (such as this) explain what is happening (like you did in this thread) and then ask for monitary assistance!

(note: the key is to explain why it's more importent for the reader to donate now, then is normally. True, making all your addons should warrant a donation all the time, but explaining the situation will usually set a fire under the reader butt, to donate now)


Anyways, I've rambled on enough, but I hope you find something useful in what I have writen (and badly spelled). Most of my post may have been on the negitive side, but only because I genuinely what you to make the choice that best benifits You. (because if too many bad things happen to you, I might just loss my precious Gatherer and Auctioneer and well playing WoW without them...ack!...best not to think of that disaster :-)

Thanks again for all your effort,
Grina

I did not know AucDB even existed until a few weeks ago.
When I tried it, I got errors.

I'd like to try it once it is working.

I agree with some of the above posters that it has not been "marketed" properly. I have hardly seen anybody in the UI forums at wow-europe.com mention it despite they know all sorts of obscure addons.

Regarding the server-cost I can imagine it can be expensive. I have a few suggestions, don't know how feasible they are:

1. Talk to people at the large wow-sites. Perhaps they can see a good idea to sponsor such project. (I am thinking of sites like Wowhead, curse, etc).

2. Would it be possible to build-in some sort of peer-to-peer function in the Wowdb client? I am sure Norganna wouldn't have to implement it all since there is probably some plug'n play torrent kit for developers somewhere. Now, obviously we can't demand anyone to share since some people got limited bandwidth and some people even pay hourly for access. But if I could have a constantly updated databased installed locally I would surely keep the client running in the background :)

Just donated, I feel better now!!

Norganna, these people obviously care about you and your work, now back to the workbench with a smile

Hi,

Shamed into Donating by your post as it's too easy to take for free and I'd hate you to give up the good work.

Agree with most of the comments - visibility and simplicity of use/install are key. Stumbled accross DB and started to use until upload broke. How to get/Instructions/Downloads etc. (for all the addons) should be simpler.

Brilliant tools - keep up the good work - please :-)

If you are happy with your current stats, AucDB may not be of much use to you.

But its goal is to provide more accurate statistics which approximate the true "highest sellable price" point for an item. All of our other stats try to estimate that price by looking at the prices items are listed for. AucDB instead reports the prices that items actually sell for. This latter thing is not available to you in game (at least, for anything other than your own sales). AucDB allows us to aggregate that date for multiple sellers on a realm.

It also provides an offline mechanism for querying this data, which some people might find useful.

Well, I did know about it because I always check the Auctioneer and Gatherer news pages and I saw it when it went live and even heard about it before then. That said, I had no real idea what it was good for. Without details on how it works or anything, I just looked at the site itself. It let me enter an item and get a price for a realm (not my main realm though). As far as I could tell from that, it was simply a way to check prices offline. From my point of view looking at that, it was not worthwhile to use as I could look at prices while I'm playing inside the game itself with Auctioneer. Why bother leaving the game and looking online? That was my view and I never looked again until now. And even now, that's the same feeling I get when I look at the site. There isn't anything that remotely tells me it's useful for anything else. Only from reading this thread did I find out that there is a downloadable part to it that lets you view pricing in the game itself. Only from reading this thread did I even find out there was a downloadable part that lets you upload data.

Simply put as most everyone has pointed out, there is virtually no description or instructions or readily available download link for AucDB that helps someone decide to use it in the first place. Without that, I'm surprised there are even 100 hits/day.

Put out a new Auctioneer Suite that includes the AucDB parts for uploading data and displaying the offline data (whatever part it is that shows average sell prices as that's the part that seems most useful that isn't already part of Auctioneer). Then make it noticeable. Either include a notice on the download page (in big bright letters or something to get attention) or in the addon itself that tells users it's there and what it does. If you don't want to include it in the Auctioneer Suite, then put download and description information everywhere you have download and description information for Auctioneer and Gatherer. Advertise it everywhere you can. And provide detailed explanations of what it is and why it's useful and how to use it.

We just either didn't know about it at all or didn't know enough of about it to use it. That's the downfall with it. Fix that and any bugs that may be in the system and it may become popular.

Also, notice that the AucDB forum links are barely even on the page at 1680x1050 without scrolling. It's below development and other links that aren't really much interest to most people. If I am seeing what is available in a "menu" like that, I tend to stop looking once I start seeing development, contact info, etc. (things that aren't the focus of whatever site I'm looking at -- in this case the main addons). I just stop looking at that point and I think many do the same thing. If you moved it up to just under either Auctioneer or Gatherer, you'd likely get more notice here as well. You still need better advertisement elsewhere, but that is at least something easy to do right here. I know you do have it on the tabs at the top (not called AuctioneerDB though), but those tabs are small and not really noticeable at high resolutions. It's rarely a good idea to put navigation tabs at the very top of a page like that as most people tend to ignore anything more than 1/2" to 1" from the top other than a large font title or image.

actually wowecon uses the data from your mail sells. it doesn't use the ah data. it uses what you actually sell the items for to collects data from what i understand about it.

Have to say, like many, I'm a bit saddened to hear the news.

I think AuctioneerDB (AucDB) is a great idea, and a tremendous benefit to serious players that spend significant time at the AH. For that matter, the entire Auctioneer suite is an incredible project, and the value of it is hard to quantify.

A quick note, before I start speaking at length. The 100 visitors a day is a measure of visitors to the web UI, correct? This does not account for in-game AucDB module use? I would expect the in-game module use to far exceed that of the web front-end, by at least a factor of 10. Hard to measure whether the in-game use is "active" use, but I'd imagine it's substantial.

I do completely understand the hosting costs issue, and find it hard to imagine that it would be viable as a free-for-everyone service long-term. I had considered an AucDB like service early on, before such a design was announced on the main site, and always assumed that it would be hosted by guilds, but this would typically be realm-specific. Doing it across all realms is so much more lofty of a goal, with so much more benefit.

The web interface seems very useful, but to a much more select group of people. As-is, the amount of data yielded by Auctioneer is likely to be very confusing to a vast majority of "general" users. I think the average WoW player is going to be looking primarily at the "moving price" field almost exclusively. To this end, the AucDB in-game add-on gives extended value for the occasional player, who doesn't perform AH scans frequently.

But for the serious party, be they someone who plays the AH heavily, or who is just interested in the WoW economy, the sampling rate afforded by AucDB is the key to its value. And I do believe that value can be considered in a monetary fashion.

Collecting the data is always going to cost money; incoming bandwidth is no more free than outgoing bandwidth. Relying on donations for hosting costs, well, if it breaks even, that'd be great. But I'm not expecting that it ever will. So, a few thoughts...

What is the largest hosting costs for this project? If a significant portion is egress (data delivered to clients), can the amount of data be reduced, while still being useful for the majority of players?

Is it practical to leverage mirroring by guilds for specific realms, to reduce bandwidth costs?

Premium ("mandatory donation"/subscription) access to some data? E.g. basic access is 15 minute delayed, up to 2 weeks of detailed history.

Clearly, there's going to be "commercial users" who benefit from this data. Rather than attempting to block their use, let them pay a commercial level fee, for access/use of data.


Basically, my objective would be to collect full data from all users, and return basic data to all users, free of charge. Subsidize that by charging for more in-depth access, with tiers of access; average "serious" player may only be looking for detailed info on a per-realm basis, while a "commercial user" will want detailed info for all realms. If it pays for itself, then everyone wins.

There's definitely some moral questions here, e.g. whether you feel commercial use of the data should not be accepted/condoned. That said, I wouldn't have an objection to it, so long as the use is read-only. I don't see it creating an unfair advantage. I do see the "basic" functionality as aiding all users, and if anything, helping to stabilize the WoW economy. Only people I see losing on that front, are AH players who RP as hedge fund managers.

Think the DB is a good idea, but if nobody is using it or not enough people are donating to keep it going there's no point really. I've personally not been very much aware of the existance of AuctDB and how/where to use it, even as a longtime Auctioneer user. Like others noted, this is clearly a marketing issue.

Btw, you could probably build some sort of shareware mechanism into auctioneer. Basic suite for free, AuctDB functionality for those that pay a small amount of cash. I for one would pay, maybe not for AuctDB perse, but to support the project in general like I've done before. It's not like we can't miss a couple of dollars after all.

If not enough people are intested it makes sense to just ditch it. No point in wasting your personal cash.

Onyx.

Like most it seems, I had no idea there was a web site corresponding to AucDB. I use the AucDB data within Auctioneer all the time. It's the only good way I know to figure out whether the pricing on something is reasonable or not -- the local pricing trends get skewed up or down far too often, so AucDB is crucial.

The web site obviously has not gotten the sort of promotion it deserves. A few months ago I was looking for something exactly like the AucDB web site, but the only site I could find (via a lot of Google searching) was wowecon, which at the time seemed pretty weak. Even now, doing a Google search returns auctioneeraddon.com at the top of the list, followed by wowecon, the curse listing for Auctioneer, etc., but no mention of AucDB on the first page of results (where it deserves to be), nor even in the first five pages of results, which is probably the limit of what most people will look at. Given this, it should not be a surprise that nobody knows about the AucDB web site.

There are obviously lots of things that could be done to correct this situation. It mostly depends on what your goals are. Perhaps the simplest option would be to pursue a partnership with another popular web site where links into your data would add a lot of value, such as wowwiki or (even better IMO) wowhead. Someone like wowhead might even be willing to run the server for you (if that's a possibility you find interesting).

Whatever you decide to do, don't just walk away from it. AucDB obviously took a lot of work and it's incredibly useful for those of us who do know about it. If more people knew about it, you'd have a LOT more interest and support for the effort.

You cant upload to the database due to it being down due to money issues.

As someone who is on good terms with a bunch of people who use auctioneer, I took an informal poll.

Out of 10 users of auctioneer: 2 knew about AuctioneerDB. 1 had tried it and had some issues.

4 of the people have, or currently work at Blizzard, who love auctioneer and using it.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but its really been missed.

Perhaps you should reconsider? I know I'll definitely be donating!

I'm pretty sure I would die a beggar in the streets if I didn't have this addon. Thanks for all of the hard work you have done. Until today I had never heard of this DB, but I want it; I needs it. :) I am so intrigued by the possibility of having all of that information in an easy to use interface.

I asked around among my guild's auctioneer users and absolutely 0 knew about DB. Having auto updaters like Wowcensus and curse client: they never visit the site. I only learned of it due to me checking the forum as to why there wasn't a update for gather yet (after some patch)
Also having the uploader working would have helped i think.

I didn't know about uploading the data afterwords.

Since 3.2, my auctioneer stopped working, or complains about macro errors every time I log in--and so I've stopped using it completely. I thought someone else would have reported the error and that Curse would have let me know it was fixed.

Also, I find the interface confusing. It's a neat application, and I'd like to play with it some more, but don't have the time to learn how to best sell my stuff, what to buy, and what I can get to DE.

Well, I guess since uploading is no longer an option, data is rotting and getting out of date each passing day, and my server in particular has never had an upload (Silk Cloth seen 0 times) (Muradin-US), I can't think of any reason to keep it. I wanted to try to help make it work by doing uploads and sending guildies to the site to do the same, but it appears from the above comments that there is no current plan to allow uploading data again. If the point was "most accurate info", and the data is growing stale, it kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

Norganna,

First, thank you for Auctioneer and the work on AuctioneerDb. Now, as for usage of DB...
1. Didn't know it existed for quite a while.
2. I heard about it and it took 10 minutes of searching to find the basically-hidden link. As I type this I'm still trying to find all the pieces I need to make it work.
3. When I did find it, it was broke. The info on the forums basically said "It's broke and we don't know when it will be up"
4. Just tried it again and am getting the same error:
Warning:
Unexpected exception caught
Message:
Error in AddByte(CacheItem39232Slot): value (71245) exceeds byte size
So basically, either I'm not doing something right and the documentation provided hasn't assisted me in fixing it or something is broken on your end. Either way, the reason why I'm not using the system is hopefully apparent now...

the data is not the problem. the problem, is money right now. the cost to visit ratio just isn't worth it from what i can tell. i believe people were using the program but not enough to support the cost at which it was operating.

Posted By: NorgannaI have sunk quite a bit of my own time and money (2 years of my spare time, and around $5000 of my own money at this point) into the project to find out that almost nobody is going to use it. We got during the peak of it's use about 100 visitors/day.

If he/we/us/everyone can get more people visiting the site and using the product then he might be able to justify the money sink for the server.

Now when you compare that to Auctioneers visits a day to just Curse alone: Avg Daily DL (last 30 days): 7,650 the difference is quite astonishing really. That's not even counting all the visits to the main site we have and the Wowinterface site downloads either.

sync won't likely ever be in the auc suite, i would guess.

running the sync requires an executable, which many people are (rightly) concerned about. i doubt we will ever distribute our addons along with an executable, to ensure no one ever feels unsafe about downloading auctioneer itself.

I did indeed offer and that offer still stands - I'm sure I can spare 1/2/3/4 servers as needed for a worthwhile project like this - Of course, it's up to them they want to take the offer :)

By the way, on the subject of using a EXE to upload the data - wowhead use one and people don't seem to have an issue with that... I'd have thought that would be an ideal way of doing it as you could have it run in system tray and pop a little balloon message when a user closes WoW asking them to click to upload the data. Configurable of course :)

Ah I see your point :)

Hi, I'm hoping auctioneerdb continues, as I'd like to use the data in a web site I'm planning. I donated $25 for this month, but I could give more next month if no disasters occur to my budget :)

I try to used it several times and... it simple didn't work. I'm Russian-speaking user and playing on Russian realms. Import in current ECLI version of AucDB importer didin't work - it's stops in the middle of import process so I even can't contribute. Server data is loose - and I undestand why. If improter didn't work on me I presume it didn't work on someone else. On most active players with large scandata.

As I said above, there is no danger to Auctioneer proper. This is entirely concerning auctioneerdb, which is a separate addon/out-of-game utility. aucdb does interact with auctioneer, but without it auctioneer will continue to function as it did for many years before aucdb was released.

I love my Auctioneer addon, but i have to admit I didn't really know anything about AuctioneerDB. I saw the references to it and always thought it was just part of Auctioneer. There is so much in included in the suite I sort of assumed it was some advanced feature I didn't use.

As many others I also didn't understand what auctioneerdb was about. I have been using Auctioneer for about a half year (since I started playing the game) and because of it, using the WoW auction house is one of my favorite things to do in game. However, as many before me stated, I too thought auctioneerdb was a database that Auctioneer used.

Personally I don't think I would be using a searchable web database. For one I don't really see the point, and secondly I don't think the data would ever be accurate enough to be that useful, or it would at least take a very long time. However, if other people would have use for it, I'd be happy to upload data on a regular basis, as I spend quite a bit of time at the AH.

This weekend, I'll spend some time getting the upload exe back up and running.

We'll give it another try, but I really think that we're gonna need some promotion in order to make sure people know about it.

Some people mentioned that I should do the scanning of all the auction houses myself. I don't have a whole heap of money to create a bunch of accounts and manually scan 844 auction houses. I would need 17 accounts (50 max chars per account) to do this, and it would take approximately 9 days non-stop to create the accounts and run them to the auction house. It would take me approximately 2 days non-stop to scan all the auction houses. It simply isn't feasible for me to do this.

So if this is going to be done, I think I'll need help to scan the extra auction houses at least at the start. I'll work on a page where the currently absent realms are listed, and if some of you guy/girls could spare some time to go into an extra realm once a day/week and do a scan, we can get at least some data for the missing realms, I think that this would help fill in the gaps.

It may even be a fun exercise to create a new Level 1 char (or possibly DK) in a new realm and try and "start-up" from scratch. I know I enjoy doing this and it's also easier to take bigger risks if all you're doing on that realm is trading, cause it doesn't really affect you as much if you lose everything.

Of course at some point it will reach critical mass and people will be submitting data for all realms anyhow.

I've been waiting for you to get back to us about aucdb! Thanks norganna.

I agree you just need a bit more exposure and the project will reach critical mass fairly quickly.

Also, the main reason I would like to see aucdb work, is so I can look at price history and trends. I'm running Market Watcher at the moment, which does give me a graphical history of prices, but only for select items, as it is too intensive to keep data for much more than a few items. But it's eye opening looking at some of the trends. There are specific items that consistently dive in price on Saturday morning, and then skyrocket that afternoon.

If you can get the Db back and accepting data, I will surely be uploading mine, and if I can spare some coin, will donate what I can.

Nero
*edit* Totally happy to go crazy on the DK idea and get a bunch of DKs on other realms uploading data for you. I could do that starting phase 50 times before I got bored of it...

Yay! XD

I've mentioned AucDB to quite a few people, who've all said they'd love to try it if it were working, so now I can go tell them the good news! I'm in agreement with others, if we can get AucDB the exposure it needs (and deserves!) there's no reason why it shouldn't be a runaway success!

Also, as a bit of an altoholic, I'm more than willing to create alts on the under-represented servers (EU only, but willing to attempt all langs!), to make sure you get all the data you need :)

(oh, and I've always found it easiest to get to Orgrimmar as a lvl 1 Hordie)

I am intrigued by AucDB idea which I never understood until now. I want to try it out and if it has promise, understanding that "critical mass" has yet to be achieved, I will make a contribution. I just now downloaded it as part of the 5.7 Auctioneer Suite but got stuck when the install instructions directed me to http://us.auctioneerdb.com/ to "install" it. I'm not sure exactly what this step is for, but I find nothing on that page relating to the AucDB addon as far as I can tell. So I'm stuck.

Is it me, or is AucDB no longer available? If it is me, I am sure there are others like me who have just given up at this point. Thanks for your attention, and best of luck.

I am very glad to hear that you will give AuctioneerDB another try. I am happy to create accounts in other realms to help scanning the data.

BTW, does auctioneer scan all 3 auction chains (alliance, horde, and neutral)? Or do you have to be at the auction house of the chain to get the data?

I'm a great admirer of all Norganna's addons and have been using them for quite some awhile. They've certainly gotten better with each new revision and I'd hate to see them go away. I'll be making another donation to assist with the cause, and urge other players in my guild that use your addons to do the same. Best of luck, and God bless.

Semper Fidelis,
Kerry

Saepius Exertus, Semper Fidelis, Frater Infinitas - Often tested, Always faithful, Brothers forever - United States Marines

Is the page of missing realms available, yet? I am ready to start helping out.

Also, when do you think the updated client will be done? I am manually uploading/downloading the database right now. Would love to test out the newly fixed client.

About the future of the Auctioneer.
To start, I'd like to say that I am a new Auctioneer user, myself and am loving it. When i found this site, and read the news posts, i was really disappointed that the DB would be taken down. I also know a few people who use it and recommend it to me and felt the same. There is, however a very common problem I find with my friends (and im ashamed to say, even myself) is that a lot of the Auctioneer functions we/they cant seem to learn to use. Im sure that throughout a lot of your forums, I could find a lot of the answers to questions, but if you know gamers, they're lazy. Even if you don't revise the interface, maybe just make a detailed tutorial vid about how to use Auctioneer.

For Advertising, you might be able to ask some of the Guilds who use your mod to advertise on their sites.

I was just listening to "The Instance" podcast and they had a very good idea for AuctioneerDB. Create an iPhone app. I would use it constantly if I had access to that data on my iPhone.

Fantastic

Great to hear the updates, Norganna. Thank you for your hardwork.

Meanwhile, as soon as you tell us what realm/auction houses are missing (ala the page) I will create a character there and start scanning.

Keep up the good work. Your effort is greatly appreciated.

So as of right now AuctioneerDB.com is still down for importing right?

As you may recall (or not), when you announced AuctioneerDB - what I said was:

"What is it?"

Never heard of it before - and forgot about it later. I think your problem may be one of PR - there might be a lot of people who would be interested if they knew about it, how it worked etc. And NOT by having to spend ages trawling through wikis about something they are not sure is for them - but as quick easy PR blurbs.
Not that you should be spamming or anything, but perhaps getting it mentioned a bit more here and there would help.

Hi,

I've set up a cronjob to upload Auc-Db.lua to http://us.auctioneerdb.com/contribute.php (sorry - I just can't stand GUI apps for simple repetitive tasks). But! - I'm wondering if this is the way to do it. Is there any difference between using the client applications and uploading manually (ie. via the website)?

I'm using the Perl script found here: http://lena.franken.de/perl_hier/uploadingfiles/index.html . It seems to be working - but can someone on the inside please confirm whether or not this solution is OK? If it works then at least the Linux-users (perhaps also Mac-users) have no excuse for not uploading regularly.

Regards,
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