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    • CommentAuthormagzarella
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2007
     
    I found something with auctioneer that I don't like. There needs to be a way to exclude the extremes on the data. For example, fro a stack of copper bars, the median is 1111g and the buyout average is 888g. Really copper bars in a stack of 20 are worth from 50-80s. I think there should be a way to not include data above or below a certain range for certain items. Like for copper bars, don't include data less than 30s, or above 1g, because it is really screwing me up.
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      CommentAuthorDeckard
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2007 edited
     
    Auctioneer already uses a sophisticated method for determining median prices for auctions, but there is nothing that can be done when other people are dedicated to putting up auctions at ridiculous prices over time. Please see Q8 in the FAQ that addresses this problem. Experience will be your best judge, as always.

    The developers are planning new features for Auctioneer 5.0 that use actual sale prices instead of auction ones. Sorry, no promises and no ETA on that though.
    • CommentAuthorG3iMacMan
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2007
     
    I'd like to see a way to purge gray items from the database. I have no use for the price of gray items because there is no use for them. If auctioneer could ignore them all together would be great. Actually, being able to purge data from the database by quality would be great. I a lot of items from the same person over and over and over b/c they never sell the item then they drop the price a bit, and all it does is keep adding to the DB. I hate having my DB fill up over 100% all the time.
    • CommentAuthorRockSlice
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2007
     
    AucAdv filters out grey items by default so that they never enter the db in the first place. (Can be turned off if desired)
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      CommentAuthordinesh
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2007
     
    also, it's worth noting that, from a SV % full point of view, seeing the same item over and over again won't actually increase your db size, it's seeing it for the first time that does. and from just a sheer MB perspective, once you hit 35 of the same item, seeing more doesn't increase the size either.
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    Posted By: magzarellaI found something with auctioneer that I don't like. There needs to be a way to exclude the extremes on the data. For example, fro a stack of copper bars, the median is 1111g and the buyout average is 888g. Really copper bars in a stack of 20 are worth from 50-80s. I think there should be a way to not include data above or below a certain range for certain items. Like for copper bars, don't include data less than 30s, or above 1g, because it is really screwing me up.

    The problem really occurs when someone puts up 5 stacks of bars at 20G/stack by splitting them and putting up 100 single bars a 1G each. while the five bars would get rejected as outliers, the sheer number of single bars overwhelms the calculations and changes the price upward.
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      CommentAuthorHirsute
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
     
    Hrmmm. I'll have to look at how the Outlier filter works, because I *thought* it worked on price/item, and thus this shouldn't make any difference, as the bars should be filtered if the stack would be filtered, and vice-versa. Filtered items are not entered into the database, and thus never affect the estimates AA produces.
    • CommentAuthormattbnr
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
     
    i too thought this but i see his point. if auctioneer seen said item 200 times at the same price it might assume that THAT is the correct price and the others are not right so in turn it might adjust the price to what ever that price is and remove the others.
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      CommentAuthorHirsute
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
     
    Not if the item is being filtered. Items that are filtered are never processed further, so 8 billion copies of the same item that are filtered will not change the price at all.
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      CommentAuthordinesh
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2008
     
    Note that the OP was talking about AC, which has no outlier filter. Not sure which app OMG was talking about.
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      CommentAuthorHirsute
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2008
     
    Ahhh. Silly me.
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    I've too have noticed that auctioneer has been reporting outlandish figures for even the most basic of items. I understand that this is not an inherent malfunction of auctioneer, rather than it being people manipulating how auctioneer functions to artificially inflate the cost of basic items in the auction house. Posting items at 999% is becoming more frequent as is seeing average stack pricing on e.g. netherweave cloth at 78g being reported in auctioneer. Is there anyway to have auctioneer reject or not incorporate pricing information into it's calculations that exceed the current baseline average figure by a certain percentage?
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      CommentAuthorNechckn
    • CommentTimeAug 9th 2008
     
    TainoNativ,

    AuctioneerAdvanced will automatically toss out any posted auction stats that fall outside of your set percentages- that was yet another of the big increases in functionality that spurred the creation of AuctioneerAdvanced.

    For a decent description of Outlier and the ignore list, see the fourth and final posts which provide some suggestions and a bit of insight into the Outlier and Simple Filters: http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/7416/ .

    Happy Auctioneering,

    Nikk :shades:

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