Most definately. same way we usually swap every day, 3 of us do it just in case we lose our data from an ace lib screw up. We all updated and now cannot swap data. Thanks for the quick response btw :) I've tried removing gatherer and re adding it i might get one of the other guys to do the same. I had read through Faqs for .0604 and couldnt see anything about a known bug so thought i would post it may just be me doing something noobish. but i'm just doing what i normally do.