Alot of people are going to need new enchants. I'd say a day before the weekend after the patch would be a good time to let a few loose to make a good profit. Im thinking of doing the same with Khorium bars. I have alot of them just sitting there. I'm hoping that the demand will be much greater than the supply later on when people get the new recipes and such.

I'm also wondering how much primal nethers are going to sell for. Being a boe after the patch, I just dont have any idea wether to sell my nethers now by crafting or the surefoot enchant or hold on to them to sell to the peps who need them for the new craftable gear.

Posted By: Snooker
The LPS prices on my server are about 23-25g each now and I have stockpiled a large amount of those, contrary to what most other people are doing.

Any thoughts?

So, why not as well speculate on voids?
LPS remain at 30g on my serveur
Voids cristals dropped from 25g to 15g now.
Correct me if i dream, but i thought one void at 20g (average) gets me for LPS at 10g each.
Nett profit = 20g per LPS !!

Now if voids price change, i do not care, i cannot buy more than the 100 i've stockpile.
And ONLY if LPS price drops to less than 10g will i have losses.

Regarding the 360 requirement; somebody pointed out on EU forums (I think) that to actually do the void shatter you need a Runed Eternium Rod which in turn takes skill 375 to make :)

I'm going to try to have some Eternium Rods on AH as well, many people probably didn't bother to make theirs yet as it isn't required for any but the raid enchants. Maybe this will even affect the price on Primal Might for a short while?

I don't think it will drop much more than it has already. 1 extra, per day, per enchanter who can do it, is online and gets around to it. Then there is all the new gear needing enchants.

I just logged in and saw that I sold quite a bit of my Large Prismatic Shards. One of my friends said that the price would go up for a while as people buy them to enchant their new gear, like what Nine said above. :)

haha, time for me to underprice you!

For the shards you'd need the Arcanoweave Boots pattern. I use Braided Eternium Chain for those: 3x Primal Earth and 2x Eternium bar, plus the Adamantite Powder from 3 stacks of Adamantite.

For the crystals, I'm guessing Soulcloth Shoulders, but 15g doesn't sound likely when it takes 8 Soul Essence per cloth, and you need 6 of em.

I use Arcanoweave Bracers. Despite what wowecon claims, I can (and do in mass quantities) purchase arcane dust for less than 1g each (93s, average).

I snatch Netherweave Cloth at 15s (the cloth->bandage vendor price), but my average buy price is 12s3c.

12xArane Dust = 11.16g
36xNetherweave Cloth = 4.33g
2xRune Thread = 80s
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1 LPS 16g29s08c
5% to account for AH cut: 17g14s82c.

Alas, my 375 tailor is only level 52, so no Arcanoweave for him... Grin.

Ah, cool, it all makes sense now. Grin.
I'm glad I wasn't going crazy.

Now my question is, should I hold on a bit to see if the prices will rocket to a new height when the vendor finally spawns. LoL.

Posted By: DeckardIn cases where I'm unsure how the market is going to react, I usually take half of my inventory and sell it right away to lock in sales

Excellent point. This is called portfolio diversification.

One splits ones investments into different piles (I call them "pots"). Gold (cash) is one pot. Enchanting materials is another. Tradeskill leveling materials is yet another. So on and so forth.

I can't recall where I came across it, but 12 is the magic number for minimaxing. More pots than twelve decreases risk, but at a vastly diminshed rate of return. Fewer pots increases the potential profitability, but at a vastly diminished confidence level. A portfolio of size one (say, having *all* of your assets tied up in Large Prismatic Shards) has a very high potential of profit (the price of LPS shoots up to 50g tomorrow due to a hotfix that gives you an epic mount for each LPS, for example) but has a rather low level of confidence (49%, best case. How likely is it that even if the price shoots up to 50g that FuFuFighter doesn't have 3 bajillion of them banked, ready to flood the market?)

I try to stick to 20% liquid (assets as gold) but I've had to dip down to 10% with skittish people dumping their VC and LPS in the AH and how can I possibly pass up on those 20 stacks of VCs posted at 200g when I know I'll get at *least* 400g, probably closer to 900g for them?

By the by, anyone want to buy 500x[Void Crystal]?

Posted By: bunnyfufuPresuming netherweave cloth is purchased at 15s or less (which is how I acquire all of mine), I can craft Large Prismatic Shards (hereafter "LPS") for just under 18g. Presuming Soul Essence at 1g each, I can craft Void Crystals (hereafter "VC") for just under 15g.

My data point toward 45g for VC until the vendor opens up, and 27g for LPS.
50g and 25g after the vendor opens up.
After the cooldown is removed (I'm guestimating 3-4 weeks. Short, like Nexus transformation) the prices will drop to 40g/20g.

From http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html />

Enchanting
Removed the cooldown from Void Shatter.

Although it is quite possible that I just got lucky (even a stopped clock is right twice a day) I did guess correctly. Here's my update:

Average purchase price for Arcane Dust: 97s
Average purchase price for Netherweave Cloth: 12s98c
Average sale price for Large Prismatic Shard:
Total Sold: 492 sold, 28g73s each
Past Three Days: 52 sold, 31g28s each

Which yields:

12xArcane Dust= 11g64s
36xNetherweave Cloth = 4g68s
2xRune Thread = 80s
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1 LPS 17g12s

I prefer to do my forecasting pessimistically. In this this case, the math is nicer. 27g-17g=10g

10g profit each and every shard I make. I also sell via multiple alts who have not been cursed with the name Bunnyfufu. Said alts are listing the shards for higher amounts (and people buy from "them" so they don't buy from "me" even though it costs more!) Data from my other characters/account is not included here.

Even though the void-shatter recipe is now available, price of LPS is stable at a level even higher than what I had forecast. My best guess is that this is due to the requirement of an Eternium Rod, not something many disenchanters (yes, even myself) bother to get. This leads me to believe that, until the cooldown is removed, price of LPS will be stable at your current average price, +/- 11.5%. (For Dalaran-Horde, 28g +/- 11.5% is 25g-31g, which is the price range I can reliably sell them at. 25g, they disappear immediately, 31g, they linger until they're the only ones left) Season 4 stuff will push this average price up 5.75% (although, to be fair, I have low confidence in the actual amount it will go up).

Since I couldn't do it myself (tailor too low level) I actually ended up selling cloth and arcane dust to people who were...