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    • CommentAuthorblankStare
    • CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
     
    I can't find any docs on what automagic does. I did a search on the forums and 8 topics come up but just about errors. Any quick summary?
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      CommentAuthordinesh
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
     
    it automates some auction related tasks, such as: autoselling items BTM bought for vendor, mailing items BTM bought for disenchant/prospect/enchant mats, plus a handful of other things. a look through its option panel should give you some insight.
    • CommentAuthortestleK
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
     
    bah, yes I clearly need to get around to writing some sort of better help or docs for it in the wiki.

    Currently, as dinesh states, it allows autoloading of items (for mailing) with BTM rules of Disenchant, or Prospect. It also allows the autoloading of mats or gems for mailing back to your ah toons. It also allows auto selling of items bought (by BTM) for vendoring to the merchant. Its newest ability is the ability for it to 'suggest' through Item Suggest (which will become its own module and be apart from AutoMagic soon, its kind of its testing grounds) what you should do with an item and ignore what BTM says and allows for you to override the BTM reasons and use the Item Suggest reason for selling your items(or autoloading into mailbox for DE) Item Suggest features the ability to weight and use custom deposit rate values for your preference of what you want to do with items (IE you can set a weight to vendor by a specific percentage over auction since its -possible- to not sell the item right away and loose money in deposits) or prospect or de etc... Item Suggest will be used heavily in AutoMagic in the future its kind of a way of running a BTM scan against your own current inventory and AutoMagics coming features will require its existence... At the moment AutoMagic also has the ability to insert a deposit cost figure (customizable) into your tooltip for each item you mouse over, This tooltip will be moving to informant once I get the time to actually move it :)

    AutoMagics primary focus is to automate simple actions that are created by using Auctioneer Advanced but don't necessarily have to do with auctioning itself. It will handle the automatic selling of items to vendor and handle all mail related tasks(note: BeanCounter already handles record keeping so this will not be part of AutoMagics future feature list) Eventually it should (If I get enough time) boast a Get-All mail feature and a mail receipt system a guild(or non guild) 'pawn' shop type system. I also hope to expand its mailing ability (IE auto fill recipient based on what you are mailing etc to allow difference items to go to different toons without having to micro manage it.)
    • CommentAuthorquadling
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2008
     
    AutoMagic is great (along with the rest of the suite) but when I place items into the Auto Sell Config window for auto-selling of specific items, the list does not live across quitting/restarting WoW.

    If I add an item, close the AutoMagic window, and open a vendor's window, the specified items auto-sell just fine. But when I return to WoW after quitting, the list is now empty.

    I've tried this with the default profile as well as a profile set up after I populated the Auto Sell Config list, but no joy.

    What am I doing wrong?

    Thanks.
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      CommentAuthorHirsute
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2008
     
    A couple of things:

    1)You're quitting out of WoW using it's quit dialogue, correct? (You probably are, but I always check, just in case)
    2)If the above answer is yes, then go to WoW-folder\WTF\Account\<Account Name>\Saved Variables and look for the automagic lua file, make sure it isn't read-only.
    • CommentAuthorRockSlice
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2008
     
    This is a known issue, and you can vote for it at http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-84
    • CommentAuthorquadling
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2008
     
    I've voted for it.

    It's interesting that there is no automatic lua file in

    WoW-folder\WTF\Account\<Account Name>\Saved Variables

    at all. The only one I see is in

    WoW-folder\Interface\Addons\Auc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Utils-AutoMagic\Auc-Util-AutoMagic.lua
    and it has a modification date way back in early June (clearly not modified by my settings).
    • CommentAuthorRockSlice
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2008
     
    right. You don't have an AutoMagic SV because it's embedded. Only addons in the root Addons folder get SVs. That is why you're getting the bug, and the author wasn't.
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      CommentAuthorHirsute
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2008
     
    That was my error, I'm using an unembedded version of the plugin, and forgot its embedded in the package file.
    • CommentAuthorquadling
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2008
     
    Posted By: RockSliceright. You don't have an AutoMagic SV because it's embedded. Only addons in the root Addons folder get SVs. That is why you're getting the bug, and the author wasn't.


    I'm a bit confused -- the ability to add items to the list to be auto-vendored seems a core element of AutoMagic, yet it doesn't (seem) to work. But above you say that using an "un-embedded" version of Auctioneer will work. I'm not clear what the difference is between "embedded" and "un-embedded" version, or how I can/should run the version that will allow me to save the manually-entered "to sell" items...

    Can you clarify please?
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      CommentAuthordinesh
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2008 edited
     
    The short answer is: this was our fault, and should (i hope) be fixed in the next release. There probably isn't anything you should do to try to fix it, unless you are technical and want to try to jump in and learn some new stuff.

    the long answer: the packages we put up for download have some components "embedded", which is to say installed as part of (read: in a subdirectory of) another addon (in this case, AA I think). This is part of our packaging system, which creates the packages we put up for download.

    Developers, on the other hand, are using a source code repository, and our layout is a bit different than yours. In particular, all of our modules are broken out into their own addons (i.e. UNembedded). This means that each has to be independently enabled on the addon screen. It also means that in some small ways they behave differently. The way they can save their data is one of those ways.

    So: unless you want to try to start using SVN to pull down developer versions of our addons, you should probably just stick with the embedded versions that come with our packages. And in that case, I am sorry to say your best bet is to just wait for the next release.
    • CommentAuthorRockSlice
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2008 edited
     
    In the dev version, everything is in it's own folder. So you'd have:
    |Addons
    |---->Auc-Advanced
    |---->Auc-Util-Automagic
    |---->Auc-Util-ScanProgress
    |---- ...
    |---->Auc-Stat-Simple
    |---- ...

    In the build on our site, the folders that don't need their own savedvariable files get embedded into the main folder, so the Addons folder now looks like:
    |Addons
    |---->Auc-Advanced
    |----|---->Modules
    |----|----|---->Auc-Util-Automagic
    |----|----|---->Auc-Util-ScanProgress
    |----|----|----...
    |---->Auc-Stat-Simple
    |----...

    This means that there are fewer folders for you to mess with in your Addons folder. However, it also means that the embedded addons can't declare their own SavedVariables, they have to borrow someone else's (in this case, Auc-Advanced's)

    To get it to work, you could find your Automagic folder, and move it to the root Addons folder. Though if you do that, make very, very sure that you delete that folder next time you update, or else you'll have two conflicting versions loaded (bad)

    (yes, I know my sorting is messed up, but you get the idea)
    edit: formatting
    • CommentAuthorPalladia
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
     
    The last post in this thread is from July but there have been Auctioneer updates since then and the problem seems to still exist. Any progress?
    • CommentAuthorRockSlice
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
     
    Please do a /aadv about all , and look through the output for the "Auc-Util-AutoMagic.lua" file, and see what version it says it is.
    • CommentAuthorPalladia
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008 edited
     
    It's 3314. Is there a more recent version?

    Also, just looked at the bug and it's still open.
    • CommentAuthorRockSlice
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
     
    Nvm, thought you were talking about a different bug.
    • CommentAuthorPalladia
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
     
    Okay, so now that you know which bug I'm talking about, I'll repeat my question: any progress?
    • CommentAuthorRockSlice
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
     
    The dev for that part of AucAdv is working on it, but has had some RL things come up, so his time spent on AucAdv has been limited recently. It will be soon, though.

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