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    Gatherer v2.2.0 (#10900)
    World of Warcraft v1.9.0 (4937)(Release) US English
    ## Interface: 10900
    40 Rogue - 285/300 Herbalism
    Glitch/Bug/Problem with large .lua & latest version

    Previous to patch day, I had Gatherer(fairly large merged database) & 20-someodd other mods running fine. Patched to WoW v1.9.0, exported my Gatherer data to .tsv using Gatherbook, emptied both WDB & WTF directories, logged in & reset all my in-game options to taste, logged out and loaded up all the mods I had updated, including Gatherer. No problems, smooth as silk. Quit out and used Gatherbook 1.1.3 to do a merged import back into the new Gatherer.lua file of my backed-up .tsv data. Saved & Logged back in & out again to make sure it was functioning & picking up all the various herb nodes on the map. Logged in and ran around a bit, noticing an odd stutter-like/lag effect every 2-3 seconds. Disabled groups of addons until I narrowed it down to Gatherer 2.2.0 - all mods enabled except Gatherer=no stutter,BUT only Gatherer enabled(all others disabled)=stutter every 2-3 seconds. Purged my Gatherer.lua data and ran toon around in game=no stutter, but then I also have no data retained. Re-merging my backed-up .tsv data file(0.98mb - large but not exceptionally so) back into the Gatherer.lua causes the same exact stutter/lag effect over again.

    EDIT:
    - Size of my Gatherer.lua is 3,013kb, not sure how to find total number of global items
    - Problem occurs in all zones, uncertain how to find total items/zone, but it is quite large
    - Filters are all at default settings - I stated I had purged my WDB & WTF prior(auto for herbs/mining/treasure)
    - Problem occurs with ONLY Gatherer 2.2.0 addon enabled, & regardless of setting script memory at 0(unlimited),48,64,92,128, or 256 - physical RAM available varies depending on zone & number of players, between 130-600Mb free/available out of my total 1024 installed

    - Turning minimap off eliminates the lag/stutter, turning it back on replicates the problem
    - Ran /script Gatherer_FindClosest(25,1) - tiny second freeze & still same lag/stutter afterwards
    - Actually the stutter is about every 1-2 seconds, and no, I have nothing else running in the background beyond AVG Free Antivirus & CachemanXP for tracking memory usage - all other processes are either XP default ones, or have been prevented from loading at startup via msconfig & services panel
    - changing GATHERNOTE_UPDATE_INTERVAL from 0.25 to 1 in Gatherer.lua via Notepad results in same 1-2 second lag/stutter as before, BUT I think you may be on the right track here as far as update intervals for something...
    - tested imported data with clean install of Gatherer 2.1.1 - stutter/lag is there is well, but it is barely perceptible - if I had not known what to look for & when, it would have been unnoticable - compared to the very obvious stutter/lag in 2.2.0
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    how many items in your base?

    memory usage?

    alternatively try to change the GATHERNOTE_UPDATE_INTERVAL from 0.25 to 1 at the beginning of the Gatherer.lua file (mininote update should become less smooth but it would reduce the number of operations done.
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    Got the same problem with my client.
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    Posted by: Sephira on Jan 6 2006, 11:45 AM
    Got the same problem with my client.


    if you want this solved, you'd better start providing data, diagnosis don't come out of thin air (since I do not have this problem you have to provide every detail you can, if I can't reproduce it, it can't fix it).

    here are some useful things to provide (not limited to this, but it's a start).
    - global size of your database (both in kb and number of items)
    - zone where the problem occur and number of items in that specific zone (don't generalize, use specifics).
    - exact state of your items filters and global items filters (herb/mining/treasure) when the problem occur.
    - size you specified for the "addons memory space" and current memory usage.
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    Sorrry, it's me again. I'm a bit lost lol.

    Quote:
    I've got the same problem here. It always stutter every 2-3 seconds!

    - global size of your database (both in kb and number of items)
    Over 13000 Datas, 1.792.032 Bytes

    - zone where the problem occur and number of items in that specific zone
    everywhere I go, no matter the location

    - exact state of your items filters and global items filters.
    Every option I choose. Auto/On on Herbs/Trasure/Ore

    - size you specified for the "addons memory space" and current memory usage.
    150 MB

    Here's my complete GERMAN Database:
    url removed


    Edit [Islorgris]: no need to say it's you again, I can see the IP adresse so I know who is who
    Concerning database links, please don't post them, send them by PM to me instead and mention the fact you've sent the url in the post.
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    I got the same problem here.

    - global size of your database (both in kb and number of items)
    - zone where the problem occur and number of items in that specific zone (don't generalize, use specifics).
    - exact state of your items filters and global items filters (herb/mining/treasure) when the problem occur.
    - size you specified for the "addons memory space" and current memory usage


    1. size about 1.7mb (the file..) data mostly from :
    url removed

    2. this happens in all zones I've been in.

    3. herb and minimap on. If ore is on too then it becomes worse.


    48mb usage about 40mb.

    Edit [Islorgris]: you probably need to increase your maximum addon memory a bit, 8 meg is not a lot to play with when addons AND the UI need the space (beside the garbage collector probably trigger quite often with this setting/usage ratio). Not that it will solve the problem, but at least it should prevent other problems.
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    here is a small test to do.

    - turn off minimap display (/gather off)
    - if there is not freeze anymore launch the following command and report if there is a freeze when you do
    /script Gatherer_FindClosest(25,1)
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    Posted by: Islorgris on Jan 6 2006, 01:25 PM
    here is a small test to do.

    - turn off minimap display (/gather off)
    - if there is not freeze anymore launch the following command and report if there is a freeze when you do
    /script Gatherer_FindClosest(25,1)


    - turn off minimap display (/gather off)
    --> turned off, and no freezes anymore

    - if there is not freeze anymore launch the following command and report if there is a freeze when you do
    /script Gatherer_FindClosest(25,1)
    --> yes, there is!
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    I exactly have the same problem as mentioned above, since 1.9 and gatherer 2.2.0.

    Playing with a UK Client.

    - global size of your database (both in kb and number of items)
    size of 2,7MB, don't know where to see the items.

    - zone where the problem occur and number of items in that specific zone (don't generalize, use specifics).
    everywhere

    - exact state of your items filters and global items filters (herb/mining/treasure) when the problem occur.
    all auto

    - size you specified for the "addons memory space" and current memory usage
    70MB specified and 38MB in use currently.


    When i turn off the minimap no stutter anymore. when i put back on they come back.

    also with your setting they come back.

    I hope you find a fix for this.

    Thanks alot

    Nerissyah
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    Posted by: Guest on Jan 6 2006, 12:09 PM
    I got the same problem here.

    - global size of your database (both in kb and number of items)
    - zone where the problem occur and number of items in that specific zone (don't generalize, use specifics).
    - exact state of your items filters and global items filters (herb/mining/treasure) when the problem occur.
    - size you specified for the "addons memory space" and current memory usage
    1. size about 1.7mb (the file..) data mostly from :
    url removed

    2. this happens in all zones I've been in.

    3. herb and minimap on. If ore is on too then it becomes worse.
    48mb usage about 40mb.

    Edit [Islorgris]: you probably need to increase your maximum addon memory a bit, 8 meg is not a lot to play with when addons AND the UI need the space (beside the garbage collector probably trigger quite often with this setting/usage ratio). Not that it will solve the problem, but at least it should prevent other problems.


    That was my post.

    I have tried to increase the moemory amount to 96mb and also tried to run that /script command. No change at all. Still get the 3 seconds freeze intervals.
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    Almost forgot - when I imported/merged back in my backed-up data from .tsv, I also deleted all entries for Silithus zone, since I cannot trust any of the old spawn points in that zone & in order to avoid potential conflicts. I did this in Gatherbook prior to saving, not manually.
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    Posted by: Sticksitinya on Jan 6 2006, 06:52 PM
    Almost forgot - when I imported/merged back in my backed-up data from .tsv, I also deleted all entries for Silithus zone, since I cannot trust any of the old spawn points in that zone & in order to avoid potential conflicts. I did this in Gatherbook prior to saving, not manually.


    do you have the max distance at the 0 value? if so bring it back to something more reasonable (anything between 15 and 50 is reasonable for most zones, "/gather dist 15" on command line or throught the UI config dialog Globals tab).
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    Posted by: Islorgris on Jan 6 2006, 07:03 PM
    do you have the max distance at the 0 value? if so bring it back to something more reasonable (anything between 15 and 50 is reasonable for most zones, "/gather dist 15" on command line or throught the UI config dialog Globals tab).


    Seems like the /gather dist 15 did it for me.
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    Posted by: Islorgris on Jan 6 2006, 11:03 AM
    do you have the max distance at the 0 value? if so bring it back to something more reasonable (anything between 15 and 50 is reasonable for most zones, "/gather dist 15" on command line or throught the UI config dialog Globals tab).


    THANK YOU! that /gather dist 15 did the trick - everything works smoothly again
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    Posted by: Sticksitinya on Jan 7 2006, 02:02 AM
    THANK YOU! that /gather dist 15 did the trick - everything works smoothly again
    Didn't do to me, still having the 2-3 sec.-Lag Issues...
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    Posted by: Guest on Jan 7 2006, 02:00 PM
    Didn't do to me, still having the 2-3 sec.-Lag Issues...


    you haven't posted yet, give the technical details asked earlier in this thread.
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    Posted by: Islorgris on Jan 7 2006, 01:46 PM
    you haven't posted yet, give the technical details asked earlier in this thread.

    Me is number 5, sorry.

    Damn, I gotta go to regisster
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    Posted by: Guest on Jan 7 2006, 11:11 PM
    Me is number 5, sorry.


    hm strange, as a matter of fact I used your database to make the test (13815 items, nice since I didn't have a german database for testing and there was a few other issues to check for german localisation), so if you still have freeze it must be something else.

    Quote:Damn, I gotta go to regisster


    sure makes following all these guests easier
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    Posted by: Islorgris on Jan 8 2006, 12:37 AM
    hm strange, as a matter of fact I used your database to make the test (13815 items, nice since I didn't have a german database for testing and there was a few other issues to check for german localisation), so if you still have freeze it must be something else.
    sure makes following all these guests easier

    Heh, as a matter of fact, it was something else. A programm running in the background. However the issue is solved now, once I typed in /gather dist 50

    Thank you!
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    Posted by: Islorgris on Jan 6 2006, 07:03 PM
    do you have the max distance at the 0 value? if so bring it back to something more reasonable (anything between 15 and 50 is reasonable for most zones, "/gather dist 15" on command line or throught the UI config dialog Globals tab).


    I stopped by to check for this issue, setting gather dist worked to fix it. I set it to 25. Default was 0.

    My gatherer.lua is 2.46 megabytes, my ui mem is set to 48, my initial ui memory load is 22 megs with @30minute gc



    Just in case hardware might be involved:
    I have an nvidia 7800gtx and a 4400+ athlon64 x2, no other lag issues except when gather dist set to 0.
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    Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 16 2006, 06:29 AM
    I stopped by to check for this issue, setting gather dist worked to fix it. I set it to 25. Default was 0.

    My gatherer.lua is 2.46 megabytes, my ui mem is set to 48, my initial ui memory load is 22 megs with @30minute gc
    Just in case hardware might be involved:
    I have an nvidia 7800gtx and a 4400+ athlon64 x2, no other lag issues except when gather dist set to 0.


    I stopped back by for another note. I slid the slider all teh way to 100, it still don't lag. Setting 0 lags every 3 seconds.
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    Mmmm this topic was started verry slow. I had the same problem begin januari(after 1.9) and the first search on this forum hit the post of Sticksitinya.
    I never replay on this topic cos quests of what is the sise of the DB and other tech. stuff I dont even want to know. I just turned of Gatherer. And there was no real solucion comming up.
    Now I get my self a epic mount and was a litle out of gold so I turned Gatherer on again for some farming, with lag and the speed of a epic mount. Thats no-go.
    So came back to this topic and the simple '/gather dist 15' did it for me. Tnx all.
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    Posted by: BurkBurk on Feb 10 2006, 01:20 AM
    So came back to this topic and the simple '/gather dist 15' did it for me. Tnx all.


    if you upgrade to 2.2.1 you won't even need that.

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