Auctioneer app for Remote Auctioning? Pretty please? :)
  • LoriniLorini May 2010
    Donator
    Without Auctioneer this will be next to useless. I'd be happy to pay for the app on the Iphone too. This way you folks could get paid more for your work AND it would make it worth using for us dedicated Auctioneerers. What do you think?


    **Nechckn Edit: Moved to a bit more appropriate category.
  • dineshdinesh May 2010
    PR Manager
    We've talked about it, but we're rather short-staffed right now, and as far as I know no one is rushing to take it on at the moment. Nothing is imminent, I can tell you that.
  • dkalweitdkalweit May 2010
    I just logged into the remote, and found it works for one of my realms, so I was able to try it. While I can't really post or buy anything without Auctioneer's help, being able to 'claim gold' without having to wait for Postal to do it for me will save me some time... I wonder if there's a web services API published so I can do this easily for all my characters with a click of a button... The eased load on my daily mail alone will be worthwhile... Especially since I don't believe claiming gold will be a 'premium' feature...
  • dineshdinesh May 2010
    PR Manager
    i haven't tried the beta yet, but note that, if you do this, i am guessing it will mean that beancounter will not be able to track the items you don't pick up in-game.
  • HirsuteHirsute May 2010
    Developer
    That should be correct, BC can't record stuff you pick up out of game. Also, scanning will not work via the web interface, so any external app wouldn't be able to calculate statistics. Browsing the AH currently returns a maximum of 200 results. You can get a quick look at competition via the web interface.

    As far as an auc iPhone app for this, it's unlikely to be allowed. Blizz had eventually shut down every third-party application that works with the armory that has popped up on the store other than their own. As far as a web app goes, there's no publicly released API at all, and I doubt there will be one as Blizz hasn't exposed the data to anyone not logged in via his WoW account, they seem to want to keep it within the secure portion of the armory.

    A browser plugin *might* be possible in the future, but would take a fair amount of development, I think, and I don't know that it would have access to any scan data, as I'm not sure how different browsers handle the ability of their plugins to access files on disk.

    Overall, I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but it does not appear Blizz has or ever will, provide the tools necessary for us to do this.
  • HirsuteHirsute May 2010
    Developer
    And to boot: It appears that none of the results from browsing are ever actually visible to the browser at all, but instead all part of the flash animation they use (so browser plugins can't really read them either, I don't think)
  • LoriniLorini May 2010
    Donator
    That's really unfortunate but thanks for the detailed explanation.
  • RivethRiveth May 2010
    Donator
    Posted By: Hirsute
    And to boot: It appears that none of the results from browsing are ever actually visible to the browser at all, but instead all part of the flash animation they use (so browser plugins can't really read them either, I don't think)


    I poked at the site, and the browse results are available; you won't see the in the source, as they come in via a javascript call. That being said, the 200 auction limit combined with extremely limited searching makes a full action house scan impossible.

    I dream of Blizzard offering a message queue API that has auction actions (create, cancel, bid, buyout, and won) available, even outside the game. However I don't see that happening anytime soon.
  • LoriniLorini May 2010
    Donator
    Just so you know, I left feedback in the Blizzard thread saying that unless Auctioneer could sell or at least give away an IPhone app, I was not buying their premium service. Honestly, it's pretty useless without the stuff Auctioneer provides, particularly the item history.
  • justarbjustarb June 2010
    I think the Remote AH is a great tool to add to your arsenal, however I am not going to waste my money buying a subscription. Given that I regularly buy/sell 200-300 items a session, the limit on the number of transactions would kill me. Plus the time taken to buy and/or sell so many items - I would much rather log into the game and use Auctioneer to automate most of my work. Then there's the fact that you can only post auctions from your bags - heck, I have several guild bank tabs full of mats and items - I can't carry everything in my bags with me anyway! ;)

    Where the Remote AH is great is for checking on your competitors (have they undercut you?) and whether I have sold out of my stock and need to post some new gear. The only time I could see a subscription being useful is when you are desperately looking for some BOE gear which sells out fast - then you can keep scanning the Remote AH and if you see the item you want to buy, snatch it before it sells. But for a hardcore auctioneer it is really only useful as a window into the current activity, but any actual posting/buying is better done in-game.
  • ApaseallApaseall June 2010
    Silver sponsor
    i'm inclined to agree with justarb. auctioneer within wow does what it does because we have asked for stuff which has been provided by kind folks here. i was initially excited by the idea of not having to log into wow to do auction stuff. after a little pondering i am beginning to wonder if there is any point in this web ah at all.
  • MattBnrMattBnr June 2010
    i honestly don't see a point. ok so yeah you can check to see if you got undercut but then what? im much rather just log in and play the game as normal. im sure SOME people would find it useful but its not for me.
  • codeguycodeguy June 2010
    The application is javascript/xml (a fair amount of async js). The functionality is very easy to expose. I have proof-of-concept scripts working. The 200 auction limit is misleading.


    Demonstration of it's simplicity: (login to wow remote sometime, and issue these URLs)
    [replace :CHAR: and :REALM: with something of your choosing, :FACTION: should be 0 for alliance, 1 for horde and 2 for neutral]

    Getting total realm/faction auction count: [99999 forces an error to show total number of records]

    http://www.wowarmory.com/auctionhouse/search/?sort=rarity&reverse=false&filterId=-1&rhtml=false&maxLvl=0&minLvl=0&qual=0&start=99999&total=50&pageSize=50&cn=:CHAR:&r=:REALM:&f=:FACTION:



    Iterate through auctions: [Max of 50 per query - same replaces as above, plus :START: = auction start number]

    http://www.wowarmory.com/auctionhouse/search/?sort=rarity&reverse=false&filterId=-1&rhtml=false&maxLvl=0&minLvl=0&qual=0&start=:START:&total=50&pageSize=50&cn=:CHAR:&r=:REALM:&f=:FACTION:



    The data is all returned in beautifully formatted XML documents.

    I'm only demonstrating the retrieval of auction item data, but there is much, much more that you can do.
  • HirsuteHirsute June 2010
    Developer
    And until Blizzard publishes an API to do this, we are unlikely to do any coding for it.
  • ApaseallApaseall June 2010
    Silver sponsor
    interesting that a black box approach appears to work as per proof of concept.
  • hadeshades March 2011
    I think an auctioneer browser plugin would be excellent.. would really make it worth using remote AH.

    Also, it would be possible to make it use the same data files as the in-game Auctioneer Suite for scan-data and statistics... this would be even better as I could then sync those files over my LiveMesh skydrive allowing me to check and manage my auctions at work on my lunch break and have that data saved and transmitted to my home PC.

    Even Beancounter could be made to work by checking the "Sold Auctions" and "Expired auctions"

    I wish I had the programming knowledge to make this .. :(
  • HirsuteHirsute March 2011
    Developer
    Blizz has already changed the way the web AH works in response to people poking at it in ways other than direct use of the website. They haven't published an API. It's somewhat apparent they don't want people using it in this way. We still have no plans to make an out-of-game version of Auctioneer.
  • speedwaystarspeedwaystar April 2011
    @codeguy: that's very interesting. if anyone is contemplating a GPL/open source auctioneer client for android i'd be happy to contribute to the coding slog.
  • HirsuteHirsute April 2011
    Developer
    I don't think codeguy's code works anymore, actually. They've made some significant changes.
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