I've been using Auctioneer for years, and am very aware of the advanced search potential... I've just never been able to get it to work. I've used "Snatch" to generate a list of items I alway search individually for, but the lists it generates are always crap. The prices and availabe items are always out of date (only as good as the last scan). The most valuable information I use to make a puchase is not included (pct Mkt value), and the presentation of information is completely different for each search.
I've read much of the documention, and several posts on the topic, and I only despair more.
I'll always use Auctioneer. It's the best Arron I've ever seen. But here's what I want:
The ability to generate a simple list, populated by shift-clicking items in my bag, or in the AH, or manually typing in the name/ID. A button on that page that scans prices for only the items on that list (like Igor does with bag items). And presents a sortable list of everything it found.
Thanks for everyones input. I look forward to the resposes!
All auctioneer searches will always be "only as good as the last scan", because that is how the addon is built.
Snatch should used the Pct of market value if that is the statistic you have selected as the default. I'm not sure what you are seeing if that is not the case.
Having a list and only updating the scan for those items is possible, but has to be done name-by-name, which has the potential to take as long as (or longer) than a getall scan (notwithstanding the current issues with getall). I'll let the other dev's chime in, maybe they have a different view.
Having a better "shopping list" is certainly something we'd like to provide, but the devil is in the details.
Here's a few more details to build on, and advance the dialog:
You have a valid point about the speed of the search. There will be instances where folks have half the auctionhouse on there "select shopping list." these folks will be better off doing a full scan. In MOST cases there will be a very reaosnable 3-50 things. Using Igor as an example, this addon to the auctioneer addon does a VERY fast auctioneer scan of each item it finds in the bag. This makes reposting expired auctions very quick, since you don't have to use the refresh button for each item in the appraiser list. In this case, a 3-50 item "by name" scan would be much faster than a full scan. I do a FULL scan maybe once a week. I specific catagories (Gems, Glyphs and Tradegoods) twice a day. I check prices on 7 to 10 items (from several different catagories) 5 to 6 times a day. Each time I check the 5-6 items, it is quicker for me to do a "by name" scan (typing each item out, or using AHsearch addon) than to scan the whole dang AH. It would CERTAINLY be quick for Auctioneer to do this scan for me.
As for the available columns of data, I stand corrected, a closer examination of the interface reveals more than adequate and relevent data to base my buying decision.
New issue: Adding items to the snatch list is a pain in the behind unless you actually have one in your inventory. To add an item from the AH listings, you have to type /snatch in the chat window, shift click the item, then type your threshhold. Couldn't this be integrated in the GUI? Minor issue at best, but still.
So, the scanning issue is still the biggest request. create a REFRESH option for only items in the list.
You know... Maybe I should just be content with auctioneer - the planets BEST addon. In stead, perhaps someone can recommend an existing addon that does what I want:
I want an addon that comines the "by name" search functionalty that Igor integrates into Auctioneer (quickly scans AH and updates data for items in my bag) with the saved searches of AHsearch.
The desired end state being an addon that can save a 3-50 item list of items and searches/scans prices on demand, listing the results in Auctioneer style compete with %market values.
The "snatchit" search in Auctioneer already almost does this. It's only lacking the Refresh option oon the search page.
You can refresh items for sale (even lower subset of "items in bags") in Appraiser clicking Refresh while holding Alt. And for the Snatch... Well, i'd like to have a personal refresh for it as well.
The current dev builds now provide the ability to refresh just the items on your snatch list. (Also the items meeting your general search criteria.) Look for the swirly icon near the search button.
Already tasted that. It takes a bit of a stretch, though. As having "Silk Cloth" and "Embersilk Cloth" both in Snatch list makes it scan for both, wasting time. But that's more a caveat you have to know about, rather than something you could reasonably improve in code.
It's possible we could do a string match before initiating the search to eliminate redundant searches... but I'm away from home and can't peek at the code right now to see how well that would work.
Hmm, you mean a popup when you hit the "Refresh" button that says "I'm not refreshing that, because you are Stupid"? I like the way you think :-D
Seriously though, since we're limited by the API, the only way I can see to handle it is for CoreScan's StartPushedScan to be rewritten to calculate that a new scan might overlap with one of the existing pushed scans, and so determine a single amalgamated scan to replace both in the queue. Not impossible, but does sound complex.
I mean, when snatch pupulating refresh list, let it know beforehand, that you don't want to refresh certain items. Then, if you, in example, have Silk Cloth, Embersilk Cloth, Bolt of Silk Cloth, bolt of Embersilk Cloth in Snatch list, you could mark "No refresh" for Embersilk and both bolts, but you will still get a refresh on them due to Silk Cloth.
I have written once before (quite a while ago now) about something similar based on stock quantities and desired quantities. I really only use Snatch as I'm fairly set in my ways on what I want to buy/sell. What I would like to see is the ability to have a User table where I can type the quantity I want to always have in stock - i.e.
Iron Ore Required Stock is 40Units so I enter this in my table. My Guild Bank + Bank + Bags +AH (if thats what I want to include) says I have 45. Snatch Ignores Iron Ore in my Search.
If I have 30 then snatch will show me the cheapest or most optimal way to buy another 10. It might be 10 x 1 or 2 x 5 etc.
I use Altoholic and Bagnon so I do get the tooltip of quantities but its just something I would like to enhance auctioneer.
I'm not sure how current this is, may be dead, but I do agree with the original poster. Also, it seems like you could use something similar to the current implementation of the Appraiser with the additional feature of adding items (by name, maybe?) that you don't have in your inventory.
Snatch has changed some since the OP made his request, and there is now a refresh button (looks like a little peppermint candy) next to the search button. This will search the AH for everything on the snatch list the first time you click it, then search the image for the items the second time you click it.