Easy explanations of auctioneers-GUI (item terms/data)
  • NyksNyks January 2008
    Hello!

    I'm new both to auctions and to WOW.
    I got a tip for auctioneer, and want auctioneer to help me find good prices for my unused items, which I gathers.

    I already searched this forum, searched the docu-wiki, and read the Wiki-Beginner-HoTo and FAQ ... but I dont found this info.

    After installing the Auctioneer-Advanced-package, every items has a detailed data-list, when moving the mouse over it.

    Is there an explanation, what this all does mean?
    * Simple prices:
    ** Seen xx today .................... X Gold
    ** Todays MIN BO ................... X Gold
    * StdDev prices (12 points):
    ** Mean price ................... X Gold
    ** normalized ................... X Gold
    ** Std Deviation ................... X Gold
    ** Confidence ................... X Gold

    ... and so on. See screenshot. All the data with gold-prices ... what does they mean?
  • rodgortrodgort January 2008
    In order:

    "Seen xx today" - this is what it sounds like, the number of the item seen in scans of the Auction House today, and the average of their prices

    "Today's Min BO" - the cheapest buyout of the item in question seen in scans of the Auction House today

    "Mean Price" - the average of the last 100 prices seen in scans

    "Normalized" - the average of the last 100 prices seen in scans, without outliers (items more than 1.5 standard deviations from the mean)

    "Std Deviation" - this is the standard deviation. If you don't have any stat background, it won't mean much to you. A high number means that prices are inconsistent, a small number means that prices are around the same value.

    "Confidence" - I know what confidence intervals mean in general, but not precisely what this stat conveys. It is some metric of how certain the mod is that the "Normalized" price represents the true price of the item. A value of 1 would convey absolute certainty, and a 0 none at all.

    Of the stats you have shown, I would pay most attention to "Normalized" as a realistic price for your items. For a more thorough explanation, see: http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer_Advanced/Tooltip
  • testleKtestleK January 2008
    Confidence is how accurate that stat thinks it is. it is used as a weight in 'market' (to my understanding)
  • NyksNyks January 2008
    Thanks for the replies :)

    1.)
    > buyout of the item
    Is "buyout" the "buy-it-now"-price (german: Sofortkauf) ?

    2.)
    > the average of the last 100 prices ...
    do the following prices all relate to the buy-it-now-prices? Or do this mean the minimum-bid?

    3.)
    What means "Average MBO"?

    4.)
    Vendor valuation?
    Vendor means the NPC-shops ?

    5.)
    ... most important:
    Are the BO-numbers prices, which were only offered, or is this the average-BO of the successfully sold items?
  • testleKtestleK January 2008
    1.)
    > buyout of the item
    Is "buyout" the "buy-it-now"-price (german: Sofortkauf) ?

    Answer: Yes this is the price you pay to get it now.



    2.)
    > the average of the last 100 prices ...
    do the following prices all relate to the buy-it-now-prices? Or do this mean the minimum-bid?

    Answer: I believe this could only be accurate if we were looking at buyouts and not min bid, so I'm going to go out on a limb and answer buyout although I have not checked so I could be wrong

    3.)
    What means "Average MBO"?

    Answer: Average Minimum Buy Out

    4.)
    Vendor valuation?
    Vendor means the NPC-shops ?

    Answer: Yes

    5.)
    ... most important:
    Are the BO-numbers prices, which were only offered, or is this the average-BO of the successfully sold items?

    Answer: For that stat, you would be looking at offered. The stat called 'purchased' attempts to use what it believes the items sold for. (which is not always accurate)
  • dataflakedataflake December 2008
    My question:
    What is moving price percentages about? This may seem straight forward, but I am confused.
    I have numbers ranging from 10% to -13%
    What exactly is this percentage about???
  • dataflakedataflake December 2008
    Uh can anyone answer my question? What is moving price percentages?
  • dineshdinesh December 2008
    PR Manager
    i don't understand your question. can you be more specific, or try again? a screenshot may help.
  • dataflakedataflake December 2008
    Posted By: dinesh
    i don't understand your question. can you be more specific, or try again? a screenshot may help.


    I sent you an email with the screen shot. Feel free to post it on here. I didn't feel like trying to find a photo hosting service for it.
  • HirsuteHirsute December 2008
    Developer
    we provide hosting here: http://up.norganna.org

    Paste the resulting link back here.
  • dataflakedataflake December 2008
    http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vPNa86c/Untitled-1.png
    (note, for some reason, it wont display this pic as an image)

    Once again:
    What is moving price percentages about? This may seem straight forward, but I am confused.
    I have numbers ranging from 10% to -13%
    What exactly is this percentage about???

    WHAT is the number I am aiming for?
  • dataflakedataflake December 2008
    OK I am about sick of your website.
    I know this is way off topic here, but right now I could care less.

    1. Right below where I am typing this, there are two items:
    Check spelling & Change Language
    There are buttons for these that have never worked.

    2. Your using scripted windows to insert links and images, which i.e. 7 doesn't like and every time I want to use these I have to temp allow them and reload the page.

    3. Your IMG display features are broken for these forums, I have been trying in vain for almost an hour now trying to get this img to load from hosting on your own server and it keeps coming up as a broken link.
  • HirsuteHirsute December 2008
    Developer
    The link to the image is http://up.norganna.org/show.php/PNa86c/Untitled-1.png

    image


    1)Check spelling works just fine for me. Perhaps it's your browser settings?
    2)You could just type the tags in yourself [ url ] your link here[ /url ] and [ img ] image link here [ /img ], respectively. Remove the spaces just inside the brackets.
    3)They aren't broken, you just weren't putting in the correct link.
  • dataflakedataflake December 2008
    OK well now the pic is up, can someone tell me what this is now?
  • HirsuteHirsute December 2008
    Developer
    Posted By: dataflake
    OK well now the pic is up, can someone tell me what this is now?


    After looking at it, I believe it's the price (with an indication of how it got it) that undercut would produce, based upon the current AH snapshot. So, for this case, look at the market price: 14 00 45. 10% of this is 1 40 04.5 Round down-> 1 40 04.

    Add that to the market price, you have your moving price: 15 40 49, which is 10% higher than your market price.
  • RockSliceRockSlice December 2008
    "Moving Price x%" means that Undercut has moved the price by x% from the base price.

    In this case, it moved the base price (14g) +10% (1g 40s), to reach a price of 15g 40s
  • dataflakedataflake December 2008
    Posted By: RockSlice
    "Moving Price x%" means that Undercut has moved the price by x% from the base price.


    In this case, it moved the base price (14g) +10% (1g 40s), to reach a price of 15g 40s

    Ah Thank you, I like that... I can check and see how prices are going that way! )
  • MattBnrMattBnr December 2008
    well not really as that just mean that is how much YOUR undercut is gonna adjust them. it doesn't tell you trend pattern of the item at all. i normally check the 7 14 and 21 ( i think its 21) day average for simple.
  • AnrDaemonAnrDaemon February 2009
    "Moving average" is the average market price for specifiead anmount of days.
    Say,
    14 days average - 11g
    7 days average - 11.25g
    3 days average - 11.15g.
    Current market (You can think as 1 day average) - 11.2g

    By this curve, you can say that price steadly increased or stabilized in past two weeks.
    Normally, moving average curve building from average median prices of specified goods for specified amount of days.

    Look at this picture: Buy/Sell median with 5-day average
    Blue spiked curve - is the everyday market median. Smooth green curve - is the moving 5 day average, for the past 5 days at every day.
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